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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.08.09 04:49:25 -
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CCP might do it in a few years after more players have un-subbed.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.08.17 05:10:50 -
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I love the idea of Eve Online being a Virtual Reality Science Fiction Universe. The only way for that to happen is for CCP to add Avatar Game play content for both in space and planetside.
Back in 2011 and 2012 there were a lot of different threads posted about WiS Avatar game content which usually turned into a forum war and got locked due to debates between pro and anti WiS players. However those threads contained various ideas for Avatar WiS game content as well as Avatar Exploration content so CCP has no shortage of ideas.
CCP did indeed listen but the main problem was nobody could agree on the specifics pertaining to it. Some players wanted all locations to be a 'shoot em up free for all action' while others wanted the content to follow existing game mechanics pertaining to system security levels (High, Low and Null Sec). Some players not only wanted the ability to kill other Avatars, they also wanted the ability to steal and or destroy personal assets as well, including jump clones.
Seeing how the community couldn't agree on the topic and due to the 2011 Summer Of Rage as well as problems with data programming, in my opinion CCP became gun shy about issuing any kind of statement pertaining to working on WiS Avatar game content. Even though they said the idea was shelved, as far as we know they could still be working on it now.
All of this was back when CCP was releasing DUST 514 (First Person Shooter) on Ps3 Console while working on World Of Darkness (Third Person Avatar Game) project. Currently both of those are now classified as failed, one due to picking the wrong medium for market and the other due to poor programming causing inability of game interaction. I only hope CCP learned from their mistakes on those projects.
Now it seems to me in order to have the experience of Eve being a Virtual Reality Science Fiction Universe, players have to sub to various game aspects of Eve Online. That in my opinion is the main problem. Everything should be locked and tied together with Eve Online and each aspect of game play content, both in space and planetside, should be accessed through the Captains Quarters.
Hopefully one day that becomes a reality.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.11.17 22:34:12 -
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DaReaper wrote:I want Ambulation, not incarnia. CCP's first attempt at walking in stations was actually pretty great, but they scrapped it.
As said above, there is not much of a business reason right now for WiS, so its most likely not going to happen. But still i wish it would
Aww come on man, not much of a business reason right now ?
When a business offers more variety with available options, that always brings in more customers. Now granted those customers may show up just for one specific thing but after a while they'll usually try out some of the other options as well.
More Options = More Customers = More Money
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.11.18 05:45:14 -
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Steffles wrote:John WarpingSlow wrote:Read up on the "Summer of Rage" and you'll get an idea why this is... unlikely Please stop the "Summer of Rage" garbage. Its embarassing. There was no "Summer of Rage". There were a bunch of nerds shooting an indestructible monument and some people unsubscribed because of microtransanctions. Goons and CSM (pretty much the same people) took advantage of the microtransactions fallout to push their agenda for non WIS which they had been pushing for many months solely because Goons wanted more attention to be paid to what they wanted. End of Story. Summer of Nerdy Goon Whinage is more accurate.
The Incarna Expansion of 2011 failed to deliver the WiS (Walking In Stations) that was promised years ago in 2006 known as Ambulation. The Incarna Expansion basically became the catalyst which, when combined with resulting events after deployment and previous in-game problems, ended up being 'The straw that broke the Camel's back' prompting player outrage and mass un-subs which quickly became known as 'The Summer Of Rage'..
Despite what some players may say, WiS was not the reason for 'The Summer Of Rage'. There's a lot of other issues that contributed to it which I've listed here in no particular order.
1. CCP ignoring 'The 1001 Papercuts' thread - large list of broken game mechanics and unfinished content since 2003.
2. Numerous expansions constantly being rushed out half finished, untested and bugged breaking existing content.
3. CCP introducing NEX Store and MT - selling overpriced items for real money bypassing player market and production.
4. Threat of 'Gold Ammo' and 'Gold Ships' enabling 'Pay to Win' exploitation.
5. CCP dividing their development resources to work on 3 different projects at the same time.
6. The 'Fearless Newsletter' leaked memo - Greed is good.
7. CCP statement of Eve Online being viewed as the Golden Goose.
8. 3rd party Developers being demanded to pay real money to CCP for providing free Eve Online applications to players.
9. CCP failure to keep and maintain their promise of 'Commitment to Excellence'.
10. Showing players 'The Door' and removing player option of choice, forcing player participation in Captains Quarters.
11. CCP attempting to diffuse the situation with excessive thread locking and banned accounts.
12. Lack of communication from CCP resulting in poor Public Relations due to ignoring the player base.
13. Releasing poorly written un-optimized code in a major expansion resulting in various client side issues.
14. Hilmar's statement - "Watch what they do, not what they say."
Basically Hilmar's statement became the rally cry for the mass un-subs. Those un-subs combined with a large loan payment being due resulted in CCP downsizing their company and placing the other projects on the back burner in order to refocus resources on fixing various issues in Eve.
A couple of expansions after Incarna (mostly 'Fix-it' patches), CCP once again tried revisiting WIS / Avatar Ambulation intending to incorporate it into exploration. Even though there were a lot of ideas presented to CCP to turn it into meaningful game content, the player base got into a rage war and couldn't agree on the basic game mechanics governing Avatar game content. Since 'The Summer Of Rage' was still a sore subject, CCP ended up dropping the project ..... again. In my opinion I believe CCP became 'Gun Shy' and didn't want another episode of Incarna events to happen.
Anyway, hopefully CCP will revisit WIS / Avatar Ambulation in the future. I don't expect it to be anytime soon, at the very least it'll be a few years from now, probably be even longer.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.11.18 05:51:49 -
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Mark Marconi wrote:-Removed-
My mistake.
lol, I was just gonna say it's #6 on the list which is set up in no particular order.
DMC
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